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riders57

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PostSubject: To Grammar or not to Grammar   To Grammar or not to Grammar EmptyTue Dec 23, 2014 9:00 am

Interesting article I found on when grammar purists may be going overboard.  (In other words, the article discusses 10 grammar rules that can be broken.)

http://www.theguardian.com/books/2014/aug/15/steven-pinker-10-grammar-rules-break
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PostSubject: Re: To Grammar or not to Grammar   To Grammar or not to Grammar EmptyTue Dec 23, 2014 11:10 am

Thanks for posting these, Riders. I'm sure many of us will find this very useful. I had heard of one of these before. My old English teacher had explained the 'English following Latin rules' story as far as split inflinitives are concerned. The rest of it is really helpful. Danke
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PostSubject: Re: To Grammar or not to Grammar   To Grammar or not to Grammar EmptyTue Dec 23, 2014 1:03 pm

Thank you, Riders. The article was really interesting and I was glad to see that some of the rules I have always had problems with, may not be such strict rules after all.

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PostSubject: Re: To Grammar or not to Grammar   To Grammar or not to Grammar EmptyThu Dec 25, 2014 1:10 pm

An excellent article, including both reassurances and new things learned. There is just one point where I did not get the meaning and would appreciate native English speakers' help : what is the difference in meaning between "I'm moving to France to not get fat" and "I'm moving to France not to get fat" ?
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PostSubject: Re: To Grammar or not to Grammar   To Grammar or not to Grammar EmptyThu Dec 25, 2014 9:16 pm

Hello Eva,

The first one means that the main reason you are moving to France is to keep from getting fat.

The second means that you are not moving to France with the intent to get fat.
 There are other reasons you are going there. 

 I would phrase the second differently:"I'm not moving to France to get fat."

At least that's my take on it. Any other interpretations? Hope that helps a little, Eva.

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PostSubject: Re: To Grammar or not to Grammar   To Grammar or not to Grammar EmptyFri Dec 26, 2014 7:09 am

I think Javabee explained the difference perfectly, and I agree with her rephrasing of the second sentence into clearer, more correct English.
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PostSubject: Re: To Grammar or not to Grammar   To Grammar or not to Grammar EmptyFri Dec 26, 2014 8:05 am

Thank you both Javabee and Riders. That was perfectly clear. And thanks again for this great, useful and funny article.
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